Friday, March 4, 2011

Could you be fired for bad-mouthing your boss on facebook? (post for comment)


Yes. Read it here. I'd like you to write a post on this topic, which has to do with workers' rights vs. the interests of the corporation beyond the workplace. Who do you side with and why? Develop your argument. Go ahead!

I'll close this post next Friday, March 11 at 11pm.

18 comments:

  1. Facebook is a very interesting website. It was founded by a college student in Harvard college. Throughout the years Facebook has become one of the most popular website in the web. There are many people who like to use Facebook, they share messages, pictures, and express their feelings about life. Facebook sometimes could be very dangerous for various reasons. There are people who can’t control them self. they post any kind of things on Facebook. There are other kind of people who curse on Facebook. They don’t respect other people’s face. They post nude pics on the website. one the other reason why Facebook could be very dangerous is that a person could get fired because of Facebook. In my opinion I think people should care more about the stuff that they share on Facebook because it could hurt them in the future. they should express themselves in a more formal way when using Facebook.

    by Reginald Belizaire

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  2. It does not surprise me that the issues on facebook offences to employers have been present already more than once. The facebook network was created for people to network freely without restrictions and it is clear that comments and post regarding the person emotions and feeling towards something are part of the networking. I will like to play the devil’s advocate with this issue because I am a user of facebook, but I have a different take on what this network it’s for.
    I am a friend believer that you must divide certain things including the social life with the workplace. With this being said I am still in disagreement with the company’s decision on firing the person liable for the post. As I read through the article I found that there were people that made a comment in the post, and as far as being fair the people that commented on the post that were or are also workers of the company should have been fired as well, because by making a comment to the post they are agreeing to the post, and they are as guilty to the post as the person who actually freely expressed themselves. As allowed in the first amendment o f the constitution you are entitled to freedom of speech. Also by the company restricting the freedom of the workers aren’t they violating rights? On a side note the post was said to be insulting toward the employer who I am sure has a facebook account themselves and at times decides to insult some of his workers. Then shouldn’t this issue have gone a little farther than making the person who made the post liable for everything.
    I understand that a worker must already know that he should leave the workplace issues behind and move on to their social life, and separate them both. It is inappropriate for the workers to speak bad of their employer, but as human beings we all have feeling and now and then we may get raged and want to express our feelings towards others in a more public manner. The fact that this person also called her employer physical part names the post appeared to be a more vulgar statement. Although inappropriate I still believe that the person that was fired had all the right to express whatever she felt about her employer, as long as she did not violate a code that she had to sign when first becoming a worker of the company (which she did not mention the company’s name) then she has all right to have a facebook social life.
    Now in a more personal opinion this issue seems to be more of a personal matter because it always depends on the personality and temperament of the person and also the circumstances of the incident that evoked this outrageous statement. We are all humans and we are entitled to feel and get mad. I do believe that the worker was wrong for doing what she did but on the other hand she was just being a mad human being.

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  3. Facebook was created a couple back and has become very popular, yet so popular that over millions of people have a facebook, from young children to adults. It's a network where people can connect and communicate with family friends and having the chance to meet new people.Facebook focuses on giving people control over their experience so they can express themselves freely while knowing that their information is being shared in the way they intend. Although the company makes sure to convince everyone that facebook's privacy is well trusted, that is a false statement, when sharing a post, comments, statuses or even pictures on facebook you need to be aware of the fact that once its on the internet its there for ever. There are many people just like Dawnmarie Souza, who post things on facebook forgetting there are other people online reading what she is writing. One bad thing you say can cause problems with anyone who has access to facebook. So remember think before you click, you wouldnt want to loose your job for an unecessary comment that you made on the internet. When posting things online it is important to not expose personal information that you will not want others knowing of, this may cause great issues that later on turn into regrets. What Dawnmarie did was an act of being immature and unconscious of what she was doing, bad-mouthing your boss on facebook is pretty much as just telling him that to his face, she should've known sooner or later the word was gonna get around.


    Nataly Garcia

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  4. Facebook is so popular because you can connect with your friends and family. You can look at your friend’s page and see what they’ve been up to. Also, browse through their pictures and in a way feel like you are there. This can be a good thing, but also a very bad thing at the same time. Many people act in the heat of the moment and don’t consider the consequences of their actions. Dawnmarie Souza is one of many who bad mouth their employers online. The difference between doing it with a group of friends and online is that there is no written proof. Dawnmarie has had many problems in the workplace; maybe her boss had enough and didn’t want to deal with her any longer. No matter how angry you may be you should always keep those kinds of things to yourself. They can cost you your job and it’s not worth it. People need to remember that once it’s online, it’s there forever.

    -Nicole Encalada

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  5. Of course you can get fired from saying something bad about your boss on Facebook or anywhere for that matter. Your boyfriend/ girlfriend can break up with you over something on Facebook. It has this ridiculous control over people and it gets a little out of hand sometimes. Writing an angry post online to vent was not a smart move on her behalf. The post was bound to be seen by people she did not intend on seeing it then there is always word of mouth. Susie tells Bobby what she read online and so and so forth then it just spreads and consequences are quick to get to you. It is cute how people try to cop out with the freedom of speech bit but the fact of the matter is you do not disrespect the guy that signs your check. Now she was able to vent from something her boss did or said alright good for you but, now you are out of a job and news like this will spread. Wherever she applies she will be thought of as the employee who bad mouths her boss online. Who really wants an employee like that?
    Though bosses know not all their employees like them anyhow so maybe it won't be such a big deal.
    But did she really get fired because of the status update or was that just the cherry on top? Maybe the boss already had intentions of firing her but needed an extraordinary reason. In this technological age what better than "She ruined my reputation on a social network. Now potential employees will not want to work here because of this" or whatever other excuse they can come up with.
    People already waste too much time posting and reading insignificant things online out of boredom or frustration or no reason at all. Now something she wrote to clear her head has cost her her income. I hope she can find something else and learn from her mistake. If she really is the one with the problem and has a bad attitude I hope she realizes and works on that. Only negative things happen to negative people. No need for such bad energy times are bad enough as it is.

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  6. In my opinion I believe that worker’s criticisms of their bosses or companies on facebook are generally a personal activity and if fired for such statements, the employer is found violating the law. My take on this whole situation is basically that people have a freedom of speech and they are allowed to communicate whatever concerns they have to their peers. Ms. Souza should not have gotten fired from her job because of calling her supervisor a psychiatric patient because if it weren’t for facebook the supervisor would have never found out to begin with .Ms. Souza has the right to express herself however she pleases as long as it’s done on her own time and her own computer. What is this world coming to when you’re basically being ‘interviewed’ through facebook before being interviewed at the job you applied for. Personally, this is an indirect form of discrimination against those who are themselves in public but know how to be professional at a work cite.

    Joel Rodriguez

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  7. this issue is a tricky issue because on one hand its something that is posted publically and everyone sees its and reads it which means of course people are going be against what you write, on the other hand its someones personal page which means they can write whatever they want and are not suppost to be counted agaisnt them. but personally i think everyone is responsible for what they put and everyone should think twice about posting something on their facebook. if a boss sees his employee writting something bad about him, its that employees personal opinion, he shouldnt get fired for it, but from that day on you are automatically on the wrong side of your boss. thats where it gets tricky because your boss cannot fire you for any reason and because you bad mouth him on facebook is not a good reason because is that employees personal opinion and everyone has their opinion about their bosses, the only difference is no one says it to their faces. i think everyone needs to think twice and keep in mind that what you write on facebok anyone ANYONE can see it.
    Ellen Ortiz

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  8. Facebook can be amazing and dangerous at the same time. Amazing, because you can see other people, chat with friends, and also reconnect with people you haven't seen and heard for a while. Isn't that amazing? At the same time, facebook is very dangerous even though they say that it's safe.It can even affect someone's life. There isn't enough privacy on facebook because they now use it as a form of business by selling people information to companies. Since there is no privacy, people have to know what they can say on facebook. some people put all their business on facebook.you can't be putting everything on facebook because you don't really know who is going to see and read it.It is not a good idea for employees to get fired for bad mouthing their bosses on facebook. However, you must know what to write online because one person writes it and billion people will read it. Be careful and think before you post something, you are not safe on facebook!!!!!

    Jesula Saint Louis

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  9. Im one of those few people who don't have the time nor interest on Facebook. But, I could state that there is an odd and even within this case. First of all, as I understand Facebook is where people can express there feelings to others in anyway they want (I won't go to the aspect whether one expression is corret or not, that is another argument). People, go crazy when it comes to Facebook; lets just say that it brings out the dark side of every individual (for those who hid it in the "physical world"). In my point of view, if I would take interest in Facebook and be on it daily, and if another tells me something rude to me, I wouldn't take it seriously, I would simply state out "Thats how you feel about me,cool, fine, whatever!!!!!" Life goes ooooonnnnnnn!!!!!!! This is the point of view of the receive. In the case of the sender, why in the world should you express yourself on a serious topic on Facebook.
    -HHHEEEEELLLLLLOOOOOO!!!!!
    Isn't Facebook kinda of a place where people get to fool around with there feelings and have fun. The issue here is that people are starting to take Facebook , as a place where you can have personal relationship with others- without having physical contact or face-to-face conversation, what ever happened to interpersonal communication. What ever happened to staying neutral? Why would you want to take control of a stuation, when it isn't for you to deal with, just mind your own business, but no people are just to bored to do so. What ever happened to appreciation, or consideration, what happened to does???? People have become drama queens for crying out loud!!! Its just FACEBOOK!!!!

    Meleny Lastra

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  10. After following this link that you left for us, I learned that Dawnmarie Souza's career as a paramedic at American Medical Response was terminated due to her calling her boss different genital parts. I believe that Souza was wrong for even posting her comment on facebook as if no one would call the attention to the boss about the post. Facebook is a very open and public social network no matter how secure you may think your profile is. I think Souza did this out of frustration which caused her to make such an irrational decision. One other thing I would like to mention is that on facebook whenever you used someone name a anything you publish online for people to read or see then that person gets an automatic notification, drawing there attention to it with the a strong level of urgency.

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  11. Facebook is considered one of the most famous and biggest social network tool in the world. If Facebook were a country, it would be the third largest one. Due the size of the expose and the possibility of everybody knows what you are doing, where you are and what you are thinking, that Facebook has become a dangerous tool. Since the owner of the page is responsible for all content find there, such as posts, photos and profile info, this person should be aware that all these information can be used against he or she. Nowadays parents, colleges, friends, companies and bosses have access to your Facebook profile. Personally, I believe that saying or posting something offensive can bring serious consequences to the person and it must be used as a justification when a situation like this employee. Yes, people are responsible for the content on their pages. Companies pay Marketing and Social Media agencies to build up an image on Facebook because they know what they say or post there has a significant impact.

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    Filipe de Almeida

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  12. When it comes to Facebook people should feel to speak their minds to whom ever they have on their friends list. Facebook is for people to keep their close ones updated with whatever they feel to be public to who ever they trust. But it can become hazardous when people decide to put up certain statuses, pictures, videos, etc. What you choose to put up with of course personify who you want to appear yourself to be.
    But here in this matter, when you choose to bad mouth your boss, co-workers or situations that have been caused by their jobs, it can get iffy. It'll be bad image that is put towards the company that they might not enjoy having.
    We have the right towards freedom of speech and we can do whatever with that as we choose to do so. But from a business point of view its defiantly not good for businesses. It may deter people from either doing business with them or to choose to spread the word like a wild fire.
    Now, is it right for them to fire the person? That answer would be, there is no answer. It can easily be looked at from both sides and be supported. A business should do whatever it needs to do to look good and keep business going. So if that means to put down a bad mouth employee, they have that right. Of course it isn't a great idea towards the worker whom is out of a job now but there are consequences to everything. Yeah the worker could have been warned but not a lot of people are granted second chances anymore.

    Andrae Williams

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  14. Generally speaking, Facebook has both bad and good uses. However, It is ones own responsibility to ensure that is wont have a detriment on his/her lives. It is always important to make sure that you conduct yourself in a professional matter at all time because you just don't know who will be checking up on you. Everyone has a Facebook, and it is obvious that most people use it as a way to express themselves by the way they are feeling on a daily basis. If there was a problem within the work place, both employee and her boss should have sat down together and talked about their problems. It would have probably help to resolve the problems rather than expressing yourself in a churlish matter on a social network. Companies have rules and regulations,and most are dealt in a professional matter. When someone expresses themselves like this, it sends out a negative image about the company and how things are operating. Therefore, It will only jeopardize the name of the business.

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  15. The Federal National Labor Relations Act prohibits employers from punishing employees, whether or not they are members of a union, for talking about workplace conditions or forming a union. The idea, as they mentioned in the text, was to ease communication among workers in order for them to decide if they would belong to a union or not. I am sure they did not consider that a paramedic would be calling her employer genital parts on a public network. I am sorry to go against most of you, however, for me it is a question of “bon sens”. An employee that is intelligent and has done nothing wrong, even if she hates her employer deeply in her “gut”, will not have the stupidity to go public (to her friends on a network where she will be exposed to millions of eyes) and diminish herself by saying those things. The intelligent and good employee will give him or herself other choices, as soon as possible. In an idealized world, employers might never go into facebook and people might never tell an employer that his or her employee is on facebook calling them and their system names. The networking has become so vast that, whatever you say on your facebook wall, someone is bound to recognize you and link your words to your environment (at work or private). People become completely exposed and there is a price to pay. Laws should be adapted; boundaries should be set for specific situations. In the case of Ms. Souza, I do believe that due to her reprehensible past attitude at work and her previous record of “several incidents of rude behavior”, she had nothing to loose. In my opinion, there are more decent ways of “sharing”, if you are an employee. As an employer, I would not have kept an employee that behaves that way against someone in the company she is being paid by.

    Vera Saeme

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  16. I happen to find facebook to be an entertaining website to socialize, and what do most people talk about when they do socialize....they talk about events that have happened in their lives or are about things are to happen.
    I personally find facebook to be less interesting. Don't get me wrong.I am a member of facebook but i don't make it a priority to be there every night like most people do. I log on maybe once every three or four months. Nothing education or informative is spoken of. No one talks about real issues in life. Therefore my slogan is I don't waste my precious time on things that really do not benefit me in a positive way mentally. spiritually and physically.
    Facebook was created for people like you and me to express our thoughts and feelings,connect with friends and strangers. We allow everyone into "our private lives". This is risky. The internet as we all know is not a safe haven. There are both pros and cons with using facebook or any other website and we all have to be on our guard. My friends have asked me why don't I have a picture on facebook. There aren't safety measures with facebook. Its like "no hold bars"; no rules. Anything goes.
    People post all types of information and let us not talk about the pictures. They do not take into consideration that these profiles could cause some serious harm to them maybe in their professional life in the long run.
    Employers look for people with certain morals, values, respect.They look to hire people with high standards. I'm not saying that someone posting a picture dressed like a stripper swinging on a pole is immoral(depending on where this pole swinging is done of cousre).A picture tells a thousand stories. As humans we always judge a book by its cover.
    We don't take into considerations the effects of our actions.
    Which bring me to the case of this woman being fired by her boss for bad-mouthing him on facebook. As an employer would I want to have an employee work for me who thinks "negative" of me? Of course not. These were strong feelings and thoughts she had of him. Didn't she think for a moment " will this ever get to him?" Yes we do have the right to freedom of speech but again as I always say as long as it does not affect other people.
    Face book should have better measures of security protecting their members.

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  17. I believe you should be fired if not, have some consequence to your "bad mouthing". Personally, I think you should follow the contract you sign when you first get hired. Contracts state certain things you are expected to do as an employee. If you violate one of there conditions, they have all the right to fire you. As an employee, you represent the company at work and outside of work. You need to be a responsible employee that abides to the rules and conditions set in writing. We are not little kids anymore. As a mature adult, when you have a problem with a manager or boss you need to confront them about it. Not be "bad mouthing" him/her online, because then who looks worse? you or your boss. Make the smart choice, and never "bad mouth" your boss. It might just bite back and you might be fired.

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  18. I believe everybody has the right to express themselves as they desire. According to our Amendments we have "Freedom of Speech". And should be well respected as one of our privileges. Of course, at during work hours we should all act professionally and with respect to our superiors. After work hours you should be able to express yourself as liked. Even if it's not the moral thing to do. Face book is a way of communication with other. And keeping your close friends updated of your everyday life. If posting comments on Face book “bad mouthing” your boss is how you relieve your emotions it should be respected. It is your page and you could do as you like with it. It’s your private space and they need to stay out of your business.

    --Lydia Sanchez

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